Q & A WITH JUDGE GAMBRELL

October 6, 2011 § 1 Comment

Chancellor Deborah J. Gambrell presides in the 10th District (Forrest, Lamar, Marion, Pearl River and Perry). Here’s an interview she provided for 12 CCDM.

Q:  Tell us some of your personal preferences that lawyers from outside your district need to know before they come before you.

A:  Please bring the court file from the respective county. Pre-Trial conferences shall be held prior to trials. They are scheduled on Fridays and you should contact the Court Administrator for a setting. We do not schedule hearings that require a court reporter on Fridays.

Q:  What are the 3 attributes that you would consider to set the good lawyers apart from the bad ones?

A:  Good lawyers represent their clients zealously and in doing so are prepared, knowledgeable, and courteous. Lawyers that are not deemed “good” are ones that appear in court unprepared, without necessary documentation for the court to properly determine the disputed issues, and are rude or argumentative. Arguing and screaming is not impressive to me. I have raised six (6) daughters; three (3) of whom lived through sharing the same room without maiming each other. I sat as a Justice Court Judge for thirty (30) years hearing litigants’ disputes without the benefit of counsel so just tell me what you need me to know. Do not interrupt, and do not get upset if I’m not impressed by the bickering back and forth.

Q:  What is the main thing lawyers should know to avoid doing in your court room during a trial?

A:  DO NOT ANNOUNCE “READY FOR TRIAL” IF YOU ARE NOT. Being ready for trial means: 1) having three (3) copies of all proposed Exhibits; 2) having presented a copy of the proposed Exhibits and Exhibit List to counsel opposite; and 3) having all necessary parties present. I’d rather hear, “Judge we’d like to proceed but realize that we are missing a few things that would assist the court in resolving the matter.”

Q:  What part of the job do you enjoy the most?

A:  I enjoy serving my community by seeking to bring litigants to a win-win resolution of disputes. I know that cannot happen all of the time, but when it does, I feel good and have my faith restored in “seeking the good” in people.

Q:  What is your pet peeve as a judge?

A:  I get extremely upset when lawyers are not truthful with me!!! If you have weaknesses or advantages over the other attorney, spit them out in “Pre-trial.” Do not withhold information that will ultimately come to light. It makes me wary of you.

Q & A WITH JUDGE McKENZIE

September 22, 2011 § 2 Comments

Judge Frank McKenzie presides in chancery district 19 (Jones and Wayne).  Here is an interview with 12 CCDM.

Q:  Tell us some of your personal preferences that lawyers from outside your district need to know before they come before you.

A:  Court starts on time. If you are not there when your case is called and have not notified the Court Administrator of a good reason for your tardiness, your case will go to the end of the docket for that day. If you make no appearance before the docket is concluded, you may have to return another day.

I have a local rule requiring that all contested trial exhibits be pre-marked by the attorneys prior to trial and that an exhibit list be furnished to the clerk, court reporter, and the court at the time of trial. This requires the attorneys to confer in advance to exchange exhibits and agree on the numbering sequence. Exhibits shall not be designated by the party offering them, i.e. P-1 or D-1, but shall be numbered beginning with 1 and concluding in numerical sequence to the final exhibit. Rebuttal exhibits are not within the rule. At the start of trial all pre-marked exhibits are received by the clerk for identification purposes only. They come into evidence by agreement of the parties or ruling by the Court when proffered.

The 19th District has a website where you may access the dockets and request hearing dates from the Court Administrator. www.uscourtdockets.com.

Q:  What are the three attributes that you would consider to set the good lawyers apart from the bad ones?

A:  Good lawyers seek corroboration of their clients’ claim before filing a complaint. They ask for the identity of witnesses to the clients claim, interview those witnesses, and conduct a tough cross-examination of the client to detect problems.

Good lawyers come to the courthouse prepared. They will have reviewed all discovery materials, prepped all witnesses for their testimony, interviewed all opposing witnesses, and come armed with the legal authorities germane to the issues to be tried.

Good lawyers are courteous and respectful to opposing counsel, witnesses and court personnel.

Q:  What is the main thing lawyers should know to avoid doing in your court room during a trial?

A:  I tend to give lawyers wide leeway in trying their cases. The capital offense is when a lawyer lies to me.

Q:  What part of your job do you enjoy the most?

A:  I enjoy most everything I do. Sometimes it is a trying experience but that is a necessary part of the job of Chancellors . The appellate courts have placed upon Chancellors a duty to address many “factors” in our rulings, so much so that a chancellor’s findings of fact and conclusions of law often exceed in scope the eventual ruling by the appellate courts. When lawyers don’t put on adequate evidence of the “factors” it makes the job more difficult.

Q:  Cell phone ringing during a trial: death penalty, stern look, dismay or no reaction?

A:  It is going to happen no matter how many times the bailiff announces to turn off all cell phones. It embarrasses the offender and I rather enjoy seeing the panic on their faces as they frantically try to locate the phone. For repeat offenders I may say to them: “Next time that happens you’re going to have to run around the Courthouse three times yelling ringy-dingy.”

Q:  What is your pet peeve as a judge?

A:  The failure of lawyers to comply with Rule 3.05 UCCR which requires that a copy of all trial exhibits be furnished to opposing counsel and to the court. I guess they expect all of us to gather around the witness who is testifying about an exhibit. I also hate roman numerals. They don’t even teach them in schools now. Why are we still using them in legal documents?

Q:  Who do you model yourself after as a judge?

A:  From 1972 until 1995 the vast majority of my chancery practice was before Hon. J. Shannon Clark of Waynesboro. Judge Clark was always fair and consistent in his rulings and was courteous to the lawyers and those appearing before him. I try to model myself after him.

Q & A WITH JUDGE FAIR

September 15, 2011 § Leave a comment

Chancellor Gene Fair is one of four chancery judges presiding in District 10 (Forrest, Lamar, Marion, Pearl River and Perry). Here is an interview he gave to 12 CCDM.

Q:  Tell us some of your personal preferences that lawyers from outside your district need to know before they come before you.

I would appreciate their reviewing our local rules, particularly in setting cases.

We have Mondays established as ex-parte days to which Rule 81 returns may be made to the Court in which a chancellor is sitting without a “setting order” or “fiat”. They should be aware that Rule 81 provides for Rule 81 return days to be set by (1) local rules – our Monday rule (2) a “setting order” for the specific case and (3) a general order. We don’t have a general order.

Our Administrators will give a date to a lawyer or secretary to which a return may be made with the understanding, on occasion not verbalized to out of district lawyers, that the person getting the setting will have read and will follow the rules and send a “setting order” to be signed by the Chancellor if the day for a setting preferred not a regular ex-parte Monday.

We are happy to set cases for Tuesday through Friday on a fairly regular basis, but require a special order to insure that those who have trial settings are not delayed justice they have worked toward for weeks or months by a plethora of last minute seven day returns.

Our web page is “www.chancery10.com” and reflects where all four chancellors will be and their dockets for each day they will be in open court. The Local rules also appear.

Otherwise, I prefer to try to follow the Uniform Chancery Rules and the statutes as closely as possible, and believe that, except for those things set out in our local rules, my actions should and would be the same as any other chancellor in the state. I would appreciate applicability of those rules and statutes being noted by Counsel if I seem to be ignoring them.

Q: What are the three attributes that you would consider to set the good lawyers apart from the bad ones?

Good Chancery Court Lawyers:

  1. Have read and understand the local rules.
  2. Have read and understood the Uniform Chancery Court Rules.
  3. Have read and understand as much as is possible the statutes governing the matter they are presenting and the interpretations of the Appellate Courts applicable to their case, since the Civil Rules do not apply to the more than 90% of Chancery filings governed by Titles 91 and 93.

 Bad ones have not.

Good lawyers who litigate also understand and follow the Rules of Evidence, particularly when they follow the rules about making objections and submitting relevancy at the time of objection.

Q:  What is the main thing lawyers should know to avoid doing in your court room during a trial?

Being ignorant of and not following the Uniform rules governing chancery trials and the Rules of Evidence.

 Q:  What part of your job do you enjoy the most?

A good presentation by two good lawyers of an interesting question not easily answered under the case law and statutes, which they also present honestly and with clarity.

 Q:  What part of your job do you enjoy the least?

 “Weevil cases” as defined by a retired judge of my acquaintance, referring to custody cases in which both parents, the only choices for custody, are less than impressive if not downright awful and the choice is therefore one of “two weevils”.

Q:  What is your pet peeve as a judge?

Failure by lawyers to follow the Rules and Statutes and confusing quantity with quality in presenting evidence.

In divorce cases I would note particularly failure to follow Rule 8.05 of the Uniform Chancery Court Rules, (including a work history) and Miss. Code Ann. §93-27-209, the disclosure requirements of names, exact addresses and present whereabouts of those who have lived with a child or children whose custody and visitation are in issue. Those two documents contain, or should contain, the majority of basic evidence necessary to establish perspective and to decide the average divorce case – or to at least focus on matters of custody and visitation. I might also point out that the child support guidelines statute also requires presentation of evidence of health insurance and cost thereof by both parties in cases involving children.

In estate matters, I note Rule 6 of the Uniform Chancery Rules and the statutes in Title 91, (along with checklists on the Blog of Judge Primeaux referring to them).

Finally I am generally perturbed by introduction of documents by a party which either directly impeaches his or her own 8.05 disclosure or, on the other hand, supports an undisputed 8.05 disclosure . For instance – real estate, jointly owned, having been appraised and having an agreed balance owed on it and on which both parties agree in four lines of their 8.05 forms. Having established that, they then file 75 to 150 pages of numbered exhibits including a deed, a deed of trust, a note, a payment history, a payment schedule, the appraisal, photographs, and more than one copy of a bank verification of the balance due, and then never refer to any of those documents in trial. “Why all this stuff?” the Court wonders when writing an opinion. “And why all these tax returns?” A Rule 1006 summary of pertinent items on tax returns for the last 10 years is much more helpful than the ten copies of such returns, which should have been exchanged with opposing counsel and which can be used to impeach if necessary but which don’t need to clutter up the record and make the writing of an opinion by a judge take longer time and require more verbiage, and make him or her wonder what in those many pages might turn the decision one way or another.

The social security three or four page summary of lifetime earnings and entitlements is, likewise, a good document to accomplish the work of a number of others.

Less is more.

Q:  Lawyer tells you, “That’s not how we do it back in ________ County.” Discuss.

Ask the lawyer how they do it and who the judge or judges are in ____ County who allow it to be done their way. Call the judge or judges for information and advice. Who knows, we may be doing things wrong in our counties. I definitely know judges who know more than I do and have much more experience, as well as some definitely worth listening to who are younger and have been on the bench for shorter periods of time.

On the other hand, Judge Dale told me about a respected lawyer in this district who made a similar statement in an estate matter before him. The lawyer emphasized how he “always did it and never had a problem” before another judge in our district. Judge Dale replied to the lawyer that the lawyer “was not going to keep on doing it wrong any more and was lucky to have got away with it as long as he did”.

 Q:  Who do you model yourself after as a judge?

My grandfather, who was not a judge, but was, in his own words, “a lawyer and a good one”, and my uncle, his son, who was a chancellor and a presiding justice of the Supreme Court when he retired. Both suggested that the proper role of a trial judge, and particularly a Chancellor, was to apply the law as written, as interpreted by the Appellate Courts, and in the interest of justice, with the emphasis on justice and on equity. My uncle, when on the Supreme Court, pointed out that in his opinion his role on the Supreme Court was to interpret the law in accord with statutes, rules and prior case law in a manner so that the attorneys and trial judges of the state would clearly understand how to take care of their business. He made it a point to actually read the entire trial record as a Supreme Court Judge, something I saw him doing on Sunday afternoons on more than one occasion, even during the period the appellant and appellee were required to provide a summary of the record to be relied on rather than the record itself. I try to read all exhibits and a rough printout of trial testimony before writing an opinion because of his example and his statement to me when I was a law student that “I presume that the lawyer who sent this to me meant for me to read it all myself and I don’t want to disappoint him or show him or his clients disrespect.”

Q:  Who do you consider to be the best chancellor you ever appeared before, and what set that chancellor apart?

Naming one is impossible, though three immediately come to mind: Sebe Dale, John Clark Love and Bob Oswalt. My uncle Stokes would be number four, but I never appeared before him for obvious reasons. All three I have named radiated a love of the law and a concurrent respect for the litigants and the lawyers. All accepted the awesome responsibility of their duties to children and disabled adults with equanimity and confidence that they would and could do everything possible to protect them, which they did. All maintained a “students of the law” perspective, reading the Court file in full, and new cases and new statutes as they appeared. All attempted to change with the times and the decisions, even if they personally disagreed with them.

 Q:  Share your innermost thoughts and feelings about MRCP 81.

Sometimes I like it. Sometimes I don’t. Sometimes the Appellate Courts say it must be followed strictly. Other times they don’t. I just try to follow it, whatever it says and whatever they say it says. In the context of Title 91 and Title 93 matters, which constitute over 90% of chancery filings being excepted from the Rules of Civil Procedure in favor of statutes, we have to consider only the Rule 81 process paragraphs, which are detailed and specific as to “no answer”, setting in specific ways, and the minimum number of days between service and return day (30 days or 7 days). Judge Ishee, in a recent dissent opined that the Supreme Court should move that process portion of the Rule into Rule 4 of the Civil Rules, a suggestion in which I concur.

Q: What do you do to try and get control of your probate docket?

Judge Gambrell and I share a clerk a clerk and have assigned, in addition to research and writing duties, the duty to learn the ins and outs of a probate proceeding and to draft letters to lawyers and fiduciaries pointing out deficiencies, and suggestions for resolving them. Most result in “oops” type replies and corrective action.

It is occasionally necessary to point out the requirements that fiduciaries (including conservators and guardians, who occupy the same status as executors and administrators according to Miss. Code Ann. §93-13-38) and also their lawyers of record cannot just quit and/or ignore such matters. They have duties mandated by statute and controlled by contempt determinations, which a Court must occasionally enforce that way. I have issued only a very few “show cause why” a contempt adjudication should not be made, and mercifully have had only a smaller number when no cause at all was shown.

In addition, we are blessed with County Probate Administrators who can, and do, step in when fiduciaries die, disappear or refuse to act.

 Q:  There are 19 appellate judges. What would be the ideal number of former chancellors serving on the two appellate courts?

The perfect courts would have equal numbers of former Circuit Judges and Chancery Judges along with equal numbers of former practitioners in each type of court, along with, on the Supreme Court, one or more judges, in an odd number of those who have (or has) participated in both courts, either as judge or practitioner (Judge Jim Roberts comes to mind as having served as both Chancellor and Circuit Judge (and as a Supreme Court Justice as well) . Even though there are more Circuit Court appeals to the Appellate Courts, there are way less long opinions mandated in Circuit Court cases, so the time for research and thinking required overall in the chancery matters would appear to be equal to that of the circuit matters.

Q: Tell us your favorite quote.

“Wherever you go, there you are.” Yogi Berra.

 Q:  Tell us your favorite court room movie.

To Kill a Mockingbird.

Q & A WITH JUDGE DAVIDSON

September 8, 2011 § Leave a comment

Chancellor Jim Davidson of Columbus sits in the 14th District (Chickasaw, Clay, Lowndes, Noxubee, Oktibbeha and Webster). Here’s a brief interview with the learned judge.

Q:  Tell us some of your personal preferences that lawyers from outside your district need to know before they come before you.

We decide temporary issues by affidavits. Don’t file 500 of them however. This defeats the purpose of doing so by affidavits. We find that we hear the same proof on both. The purpose of the temp. is to maintain stability and status quo until the final hearing. 8:05 requires form, tax returns and pay stubs. It is not sufficient to have the client take it lightly. Please agree on as many issues as possible. Stipulations work better than trying to prove something that you may fail to do. Prepare summaries of the assets and prepare your client to testify about them. 500 exhibits requires a lot of time to assimilate and organize and we might , I say might, not have 3 days to wade through it. Don’t be baited into arguing for two hours about whether the other party said a curse word to your client. This is especially true if it is a custody case. Keep your eye on the ball!

Q:   What are the three attributes that you would consider to set the good lawyers apart from the bad ones?

a. Organized and efficient b. Respect to the Court and the other parties and their attorney c. Brevity but with effect. Don’t belabor the small stuff.

Q:  What is the main thing lawyers should know to avoid doing in your court room during a trial?

Never misrepresent the facts or the law, no matter how much it may hurt. This will come back in a big way to haunt you. Never argue with the Court even if you are right. This is why we have motions to reconsider and appeals. Don’t speak at the same time as the judge or the other lawyer. Most judges wish to keep their court reporters happy and they cannot take down two or three conversations at the same time. In spite of what many people think, the practice of law is a noble profession. That nobility can be destroyed by the actions of a few. Don’t lower yourself in any way, win or lose.

Q:  What part of your job do you enjoy the most?

I enjoy most everything about my job. I especially enjoy adoptions because I am playing a big role in the change in that child’s life. I sometimes tear up and whenever possible we make a picture and give them a hug.

Q: What part of your job do you enjoy the least?

I struggle most with custody. Most of the time the reason we are there is that both parents want the child or children. someone is going to be disappointed. Adults can cope, but what if I make the wrong decision and that child’s life is change dramatically merely because of me. This is why they pay us the big bucks, I guess.

Q:  Tell us a funny story about something that happened in your court room.

Law provides so many funny stories. It is truly the most colorful profession-this is illustrated by the huge number of lawyer jokes. Do you know one of the two CPA jokes-I didn’t think so! I was in a custody trial and one of the lawyers discovered that the mother may have been in the back of the house with her boyfriend while the children were in the front. He asked her, ” So while you were in the back doing Smoochy, smoochy, hoochy coochy (sp) the children were 20 feet away.” He had a straight face, but nobody else did.

Q:  Who do you model yourself after as a judge?

I think Judge [John Clark] Love is probably the judge I would most emulate. He was thorough, fair and knowledgeable. Early in my career I was called out in the Courtroom by a judge for a very minor thing. He did this to most of the young lawyers. I vowed that if I was ever in that position, I would never embarass a lawyer in the courtroom. The courtroom is a place where people should expect not only justice but to be able to be there without fear or intimidation.

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